I bought these from Sephora. Believe me when I say for a 3.5 inch eyeliner, the only reason I bought them for $25 was simply because I like HK and as a fan I had to have it. Without an eyelid primer they tend to smudge easily. I'm wearing the liner in brown over a primer and shadow. They go on smooth and glide easily across the lid. The liner lasted all day for me without running and stayed put. But remember working with a primed lid is best if you are considering buying.